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Anne Wendel's avatar

Also, I see that we only overlap a few years until John died. I anxiously await the next installment to find John's children my ancestors probably knew. (No Moores in my tree yet).

It appears that the Kranckheits did not use the meetinghouse John Moore began. They took their children to New Amsterdam to be baptized in the Dutch church there.

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Bill Moore's avatar

I have a Dutch lineage on my maternal side. They would have been in New Amsterdam during that time, too. They'll probably be the next group I write about, but I have a long way to go on the Moore lineage. At minimum, I expect to be writing about them for the next couple of months.

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Anne Wendel's avatar

I look forward to it!

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Cynthia Boatright Raleigh's avatar

I do love the idea that we are connected to the places of our ancestors. Finding such early records of John Moore must have been thrilling. It's a shame he lived such a short life. Is there any part of the Old St. James Episcopal Church that remains?

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Bill Moore's avatar

Yes. The building in the photo is on the site of the original building. Some elements of the original were used in the second building. When the current church was built, the old building was used as a parish hall.

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Emma - Journeys into Genealogy's avatar

What a fascinating read Bill. I definitely believe we are attracted to places our ancestors lived in.

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Bill Moore's avatar

It certainly seems to keep happening to me!

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Anne Wendel's avatar

I have ancestors who lived in Newtown, probably in that time period. They must have known each other!

I am from West Hempstead, so I am always interested in info about the history of Hempstead.

And I knew some Howells of eastern Long Island. They definitely seemed patrician and old family / old money.

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Bill Moore's avatar

If they were in Newtown in the mid-1600s, they definitely knew each other. The population was very small then.

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Anne Wendel's avatar

My Kranckheit ancestors lived at the Arme Bouwerie, which is described as a part of Newtown. I found a translation of Arme Bouwerie as Poor Farm, and an explanation that the Dutch used this farm's production to feed the poor. But I cannot find where it was or when it changed from being a governmental way to take care of the poor into a property that could be bought.

Wyntie Theunis and her husband Herck Syboutszen moved there in 1654. Their children took the name Kranckheit, also spelled Cranckheit, Cranckheyt, Cronkhite, etc. In 1695, my family bought land in Westchester County called Ryck's Patent and moved there.

Now we need to find out if we are cousins!

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Bill Moore's avatar

They are playing more of a confirmation role so far. My YDNA haplogroup is an outlier. There have been a few mutations that have me sitting alone on the chart. But I’m able to find links on up the tree, so I’m secure that I’m on the right track.

I actually found my connection through a fluke. Once I had enough through AtDNA to identify Asbury Moore as my 2xGGF, I started searching for him in the 1870 Census in the town in Indiana where he has been in 1860. I found him, and my GGF, with misspelled names. But when sounded out phonetically, it was clearly them.

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Steve Stockdale's avatar

So I'm assuming your Big-Y results played in role in confirming Somerset?

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Lisa Maguire's avatar

How serendipitous! In 2003 we moved to Harlem, near Marcus Garvey Park, and realized we were living around the corner from my husband’s grandfather’s home when it was a Jewish neighborhood called Morris Park, in the 1920s.

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Lynda Heines's avatar

Bill, Your 11th great grandfather! Wow!! Looking forward to reading more.

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